Due to rights issues, the audio of this interview is not available online. Please contact San Diego State University, Special Collections and Archives if you wish to be granted access to the original audio. Larry McCaffery and Sinda Gregory interview Leonard Michaels in his office at the University of California, Berkeley. After a stretch of interview that is lost, Michaels describes the ideas and forms that go on into his short stories. Michaels’ explains his fondness for the structural achievement of what certain other authors do in their works. Michaels talks about how he continued to write about New York after he moved to California because he didn’t find his experiences in California to be credible. Michaels talks about the life of a writer when also teaching in academia. Trying to account for the portion of the interview that was lost, Michaels is asked about a review of his novel The Men’s Club that was written by Anne Tyler. This leads into a detailed discussion of the novel itself.