Due to rights issues, the audio of this interview is not available online. Please contact San Diego State University, Special Collections and Archives if you wish to be granted access to the original audio. Raymond Federman takes questions from a class at San Diego State University. He begins by explaining the movement away from realism beginning in the late 19th Century and his place in it. Federman explains what he is trying to do in The Voice in the Closet and Take It or Leave It. He explains that “language is both what gets me where I want to go and prevents me from going there.” Some of the questions and answers appear in edited form on pages 127 to 151 of Anything Can Happen: Interviews with Contemporary American Novelists, ed. Tom LeClair and Larry McCaffery, University of Illinois Press, 1983.