Larry McCaffery and Ron Sukenick meet in Raymond Federman’s house in Buffalo, with Federman and his wife coming in and saying hello part-way through the interview. They discuss the state of Postmodernism in American literature as well as Sukenick’s most recent work. Sukenick discusses the use (and lack) of realism in his published works. He gives a brief history and discusses his life’s history’s impact on his work. The discussion ranges around what qualifies as Postmodernism, how that can flow into other art forms such as music or painting and what kind of future it has in literature. An edited version of the interview appears on pages 280 to 297 of Anything Can Happen: Interviews with Contemporary American Novelists, ed. Tom LeClair and Larry McCaffery, University of Illinois Press, 1983.